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Hellfire




Phil Sadler
Sat Dec 31 09:54:22 2011
Gregg: the acid pit. First you need the
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Go to the
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and walk through the
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exit. There you must answer a difficult and admittedly ambiguous riddle. The answer is
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Then you'll get the spell, but don't use it yet. Go to the hellfire and pass beyond it to take the
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exit, then meet the
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and
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he'll give you
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Use the
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now and make a note of where you are, then go back to the first section automatically and
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get the
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use one of them at the pit.








Gregg
Sat Dec 31 12:29:15 2011
Thanks a lot

Bill
Tue Jan 3 13:52:39 2012
Been playing Hellfire for a long time and it is an amazing game but still cannot find the rusty gauntlets. Can anyone help?

asgardian
Tue Jan 3 13:59:15 2012
Best to wait for Phil to answer. Yes, it is highly enjoyable, if perhaps a tad too hard. The only thing that really detracts from the adventure is the silly encounter with the humans and the snake. If the adventurer instead found an idol they had to sacrifice to for benefits then that would make more sense and be in keeping with the tone of the story.

Phil Sadler
Wed Jan 4 09:21:01 2012
Bill. For the rusty gauntlets you need to do the things in the above spoiler, this will get you the things you need.

Then you need to travel west after the
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and head to the
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Use the reveal invisible spell spell there and then the open door spell.



Bill
Thu Jan 5 01:10:18 2012
Thanks for the rusty gauntlets help. But now I have a follow- up question.
Once I meet the Trinitour I am asked for Plate Armour but I believe if you defeat the Bloodbeast and obtain the Armour then you are unable to travel to get the timespell or am I doing someting wrong?

Phil Sadler
Thu Jan 5 11:09:51 2012
I don't think the beast stops you from using the spell? Just use it where you get the other spells and follow the above spoilers. You can use the time spell anywhere, mind you.

Michael Schreiber
Mon Feb 6 10:45:47 2012
Hi, I have some questions about the layout of Hellfire because I think I've found two problems in the game. The first is just inconvenient for a player who rolls a low Skill character, the other is game-breaking because it
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1)
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2)
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If anybody's curious how I got to the
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since I just expressed how it seems impossible, I did so by
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If I've missed something that anybody experienced with Hellfire is aware of that could remedy either of these things, please let me know. I bring these things up only because I've exhausted my imagination for finding a solution.


It's difficult, but it was certainly possible at one point. It's not inconceivable that I could have broken it by mistake though - I will have a look. The item mentioned in 1) is definitely obtainable though because I have just checked.

asgardian
Mon Feb 6 13:42:35 2012
Michael, sorry to hear you are stuck. Phil doesn't appear to be on hand, so here's the part of the solution in question:


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I have the entire solution, and from memory mapped it out from the online version. Hope it helps.


asgardian
Mon Feb 6 13:43:59 2012
P.S - Also looking forward to playing The Earl of Drumer!

Michael Schreiber
Mon Feb 6 20:45:05 2012
Thanks for encouraging be to recheck my first question. I found the item this time,
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asgardian, thanks. I'm going to try and run through the game again with your solution. I expect it'll reveal something I've missed,
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Michael Schreiber
Tue Feb 7 03:01:41 2012
And so I finally understand the solutions with all of your help, thank you!

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asgardian
Tue Feb 7 04:05:25 2012
Michael, no problem. I can send you the entire solution if you are still stuck. From memory I think the only thing that is a tad unfair about that whole sequence is knowing when to use the Time Spell.

Here's the first part of the adventure that gets you off to the right start:

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Note that you ALSO need a Skill/Luck of 12 and must take the Potion of Luck. All in all an enoyable adventure that just needs a few slight tweaks.

Michael Schreiber
Tue Feb 7 21:46:14 2012
I did finally complete Hellfire. As a purely challenging dungeon adventure it can really stomp even a character with high stats easily, but I feel that there's too much emphasis on the crushing difficulty at times with the abundance of instant death traps. If we're talking about tweaks I'd suggest slightly more mercy, stealing Stamina or Skill for mistakes is easier to swallow than dying
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There's also a LOT of emphasis on the Luck stat, I agree that the Potion of Fortune is almost an absolute necessity.

I like some of the puzzle mechanics
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and how certain major enemies can be dealt with in multiple ways. I'm impressed by just how painstakingly intricate the whole adventure is, the references are a dungeon in and of themselves.

I wish there were more narrative. I love a gamebook that can provide strong storytelling as well as fun game mechanics, but Hellfire is really meant to be the end-all-be-all of dungeon adventures and its style suits it well. I enjoyed the challenge.


asgardian
Wed Feb 8 15:52:17 2012
Glad you also enjoyed it Michael. As for the tweaks, I felt it just needed:

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pi4t
Tue Apr 24 00:01:13 2012
In Hellfire, on section 263, the text indicates that the Spider Man is mean to kill you if he hits you at all. I was hit and nothing special happened. Is this a bug?
Yes it's a bug. I have fixed it now and it works as in the original : you test your luck to see whether you live or die. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Phil Sadler
Tue Apr 24 07:16:21 2012
You can avoid death if you are lucky.

Phil Sadler
Wed Apr 25 09:15:26 2012
OK Andy, I spoke too soon. Thanks for fixing it.

mcsmith
Mon Apr 30 11:34:45 2012
thanks Andrew.

Where can you found the bone bracelet in hellfire?

And is it true that when you are at the portcullis with the rat/snake/devil/demon signs every choice leads to death?

And the guy who wants to trade spells wants to trick you so that you lose your unidentified spell?

mcsmith
Mon Apr 30 18:09:23 2012
forgot to put in spoiler :(



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